Curse

Yawgmoth · May 10, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

This Zaishen title based on chest openings is just completely wrong. It should count keys received from Tolkano, but the keys should be sellable. The problem lies in bad design of the title itself. But leave keys tradeable.

newbie_of_doom · May 11, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07

It seems like a good idea, but people will just start buying flames of balthazar.
Then it's still good game for PvE'rs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

This Zaishen title based on chest openings is just completely wrong. It should count keys received from Tolkano, but the keys should be sellable. The problem lies in bad design of the title itself. But leave keys tradeable.

They just did this so PvE can get a title and an emote that they think is cool.

Master Sword Keeper · May 12, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?

"i thought so"

Savio · May 12, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper

what use do PvP playes have for money?

The same uses that PvE players have for money.

Arkantos · May 12, 2008, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper

Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?

"i thought so"

Most PvPers don't only PvP.

Ignorant post is ignorant.

mafia cyborg · May 12, 2008, 11:18 AM // 11:18

pve players obviously won't sign this cos its the only way they can get a emote without pvping.

truth it is unfair on those who got the keys as reward by pvping.

and the demented stuff ppl come up with as arguments to defend their positions leaves me puzzled.

"So you're the first one that gets 100 million balth faction? or 20.000 tournament reward points. Customizing them makes it even more impossible."

so instead of reducing the requirements for the title the solution is making the title buyable ?

"Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else. "

so lets make all emotes and titles buyable...who cares. cos u dont care ( as u're a pve ....) doesnt mean other ppl dont care. maybe the OP thinks the emote is to show some sort of experience in the pvp world. it would make sense.
the same reason this thread was opened should give u a clue that some ppl care.
"lets all give any title to anyone opening a gw acoRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO....it doesnt affect anyone else." it does actually...cos the title loses any meaning whatsoever.

"/obvious answer to this -> Let's customize dyes too !!"
we are talkin about an achievement title.....u r comparing apples with pears.
and i'm sure if black/white dyes dropped from zaishen chests (and they should!) pvp players wouldnt give 2 monkeys about buyin dyes from pve players.

truth is this title was created for the gladiator track and to make it available to all kind of pvp they opted at last minute for the zeishen key thing.....
creating a title which now has nothing to do with pvp at all....and actually favors pve players who have more spendable liquidity.

"It should count keys received from Tolkano."
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

anyway i guess its too late now.
the mess is done.

Orange Milk · May 12, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?

"i thought so"

Wow, grats on maxing out your Stupidest post ever title.

1) Guild invites cost gold
2) Guest invites cost gold
3) Changing GH costs gold
4) Upgrading said GH costs gold

ANYWAY......

/not signed

Thanks to this new title, which is even more idiotic than Master Sword Keeper, I no longer have to PvE. I can PvP all day and sell the keys instead of have to set aside time for PvE farming to get what I need to fill my stupid HoM.

Xunlai Guru Agent · May 13, 2008, 12:02 AM // 00:02

/Not singed, I don't really care if people could buy this title or not.

Yichi · May 13, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

/notsigned.

bad players need an emote too...

Angelica · May 13, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Who cares?

Let them have whatever they wish this is a game and should be enjoyed if not they should try to find another game that will.

No one is forcing you to do what you do not like.

Take care.

HuntMaster Avatar · May 13, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

/notsigned. I like this easy and fun method of making money, I don't care if people can buy their titles, thats nothing new.

ID title (no one bitches about that)
Open chest title (buying keys/ lockpicks)
sweet tooth title
drunkard title

this new title shouldnt matter to anyone, but it affects those who used keys before the title came out so they are all butthurt over it.

my advice, Use preparation H to cool the burn and move on with your life.

Molock · May 13, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

/not signed
I'm making so much gold off of these silly keys! Making gold while enjoying myself ftw.

I have been /zrank'ed, I just laughed an continued on... its not like it means anything

Odinius · May 14, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

I have two accounts and money isn't my friend, it will take me aeons to complete this title with only +/- 30 keys from the predictions.
Making them costomized is not the answer let people buy their titles, sweettooth, drunkard, party animal.
It still requires a lot of effort getting the money for it.

Mini Masher · May 14, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

/not signed

Most titles can be purchased in one way or another anyway.

Krill · May 14, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

/not signed

I like how the price of keys doubled overnight and how they are now very easy to sell. I have a lot of new stuff thanks to this new title.

The idea of making titles forced to be earned is nice, but every title has been tainted by desperate wannabes and there's no fixing them all.

Thizzle · May 14, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

/notsigned.

It's easy money selling them. I don't care what other people do to get a title.

Xunlai Master · May 15, 2008, 09:35 AM // 09:35

/not signed

lol u kidding? why not customize every drops? weapons, sweets, party animal, alcohol, tomes?

n r12 is already pretty much impossible.. if keys get customized this title would truly become impossible. gl farmin 100mil balta factions..

Div · May 15, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper

Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?

"i thought so"

Since this thread was bumped, I'll take a shit on this guy too.

question: what use do PvE players have for money?

"I thought so"

owned.

Destro Maniak · May 15, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39

dude your idea fails at a certain point. Its impossible to gain that much of faction or tournament reward. Only people who care about those titltes(which are a verly little ratio player that have money). Its totally impossible to gain that much point or faction

R.Shayne · May 15, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

/ Not signed

As mentioned pvp need gold to do things like equip guild halls, invite new members, etc.. It would defiantly put a small or starting guild at a disadvantage.

Quick question: I don't know much about pvp but before Z-keys was there a way for PvP to get gold?